看了李刚事件一个人写的东西,专贴一下,确实中国很落后,这两天和很多国外华人朋友也谈论现在的中国,中国的落后是全方面的.
先专贴一个李刚事件国外的报道:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp ... R2010110100868.html
In China, hit-and-run death exposes class anger
在中国，肇事逃逸致死事件暴露阶级矛盾
By CARA ANNA
The Associated Press
Monday, November 1, 2010; 6:13 AM
BAODING, China -- The more he heard about the person accused of killing his 20-year-old daughter in a drunken hit-and-run, the more terrified Chen Guangqian became.
中国保定——陈广乾对醉酒驾车撞死他二十岁女儿的凶手了解的越多，他越发地感到恐惧。
The suspect's father is a high-ranking police officer. In a country where fear of the police runs high, the 49-year-old farmer decided there was no point in fighting.
嫌疑犯的父亲是位高阶警官。在一个对警察充满畏惧的国家里，这位49岁的农民意识到抗争是没有意义的。
"I'm just a peasant," he said in an interview. "If it's unfair, let it be."
“我只是个农民，”他在采访中说到，“不公平就让它不公平吧”。
But an angry public overruled him. The hit-and-run last month has crystallized popular outrage at China's powerful elite and the arrogance of some children of money and power.
但愤怒的群众却不这么想。民众对于中国权贵阶层以及一些傲慢的官二代和富二代的愤慨在这起上个月发生的肇事逃逸事件中集中地爆发了。
"My father is Li Gang!" the driver reportedly shouted when a crowd stopped his car, referring to the deputy chief of the local district police.
“我爸是李刚！”驾车者被群众围堵后喊道。而李刚是当地警察局的副局长。
The comment, which was reported in the media, exploded on the Internet, becoming the country's newest catch phrase. An online contest challenged people to work "My father is Li Gang" into classical poetry. One artist used the phrase as the centerpiece of a towering art installation.
这句话在媒体曝光后在互联网上引起了轰动效应，成为了这个国家最潮的流行语。网上发起了用“我爸是李刚”作诗的比赛。而一位雕塑家将这句话用作自己作品的点睛之笔。
On the night of Oct. 16, a car struck first-year student Chen Xiaofeng on a Hebei University campus. Li Qiming, 22, is accused of driving under the influence of alcohol, hitting Chen and driving away.
十月十六日晚，河北大学校园内，一辆车撞倒了大一学生陈晓凤。22岁的李启铭被控酒后驾驶，并在撞倒陈晓凤后驾车逃逸。
Six days later, state broadcaster China Central Television aired an unusual pair of interviews with Li and his father. Both of them wept and apologized. The senior police officer bowed in front of the camera for half a minute, until the reporter helped him up.
六天后，国家媒体CCTV出人意外地采访了李启铭和他的父亲。两人均痛哭并且道歉。这位高级警官在镜头前鞠躬了半分钟，直到记者将他扶起。
"I will not shield my child," the elder Li said.
“我不会偏袒我的孩子，”李刚说到。
Zhang Kai, a Beijing-based human rights lawyer who has taken up Chen's case, questioned the motive behind the interviews and whether Li Gang used his influence to make them happen.
北京的人权律师张凯接手了陈晓凤的案子，他质疑了本次采访背后的动机，并怀疑李刚运用了自己的职权促成了这次采访。
On his blog, Zhang also asked how CCTV, as the broadcaster is known, was able to interview the son, saying Chinese law allows only police, prosecutors, legal workers and lawyers to enter a detention center.
在张凯的博客上，他质问CCTV这一知名电视台如何得以采访李启铭，因为中国法律禁止除警察、检察官、律师及其他相关工作人员外的任何人员进入拘留所。
Chen, the victim's father, has not been interviewed by CCTV.
陈广乾，受害者的父亲，并没有受到CCTV的采访。
"CCTV only cares about the upper class and not us victims," Chen said. "If they found and talked to Li Gang, then they should have found and talked to me too."
“CCTV只会关心有权有势的人，不会管我们受害者的，”陈广乾说，“如果他们找李刚谈话，他们也应该找我谈。”
Many in China are cowed by police power, and no witnesses have come forward in response to a plea from Zhang, even though photos show dozens at the scene.
在中国很多人畏惧警察的权利，迄今没有人响应张凯的号召出头作证，虽然现场照片中显示有许多旁观者。
"Nobody dares speak out" except on the Internet, the lawyer said.
“没有人敢说出来”，除非在网上，张律师说到。
Chen spends his days in a tiny hotel room in Baoding, the northern city where his daughter died. He and his wife rushed to the city after the accident from their village a few hours away. His wife has since been hospitalized with high blood pressure, which he attributes to her grief.
陈广乾待在保定一家宾馆的小房间里，他的女儿死在这个北方的城市。在得到消息后，他和他妻子马上从距保定几小时路程的村庄中赶了过来。他的妻子因为过度悲伤引起高血压而住院了。
His temporary life is kept in a pile of cheap zip-up plastic bags on the floor. In one is a school photo of his daughter, looking serious, with short-cropped hair. The photo has been enlarged to be the centerpiece of her funeral, but Chen doesn't know when that will be allowed to happen.
他的生活用品全在地上的一堆红白蓝塑料袋中。其中有一张他女儿生前的证件照，剪着短发，表情严肃。这是张放大了的照片，准备用在女儿的葬礼上，但陈广乾不知道什么时候葬礼能被允许。
Li Gang, the father of the accused, has come to the dreary hotel to visit him twice.
李刚，肇事者的父亲，曾来过这个阴暗的旅馆找过他两次。
"My first impression was that he was an honest guy, easygoing, apologizing and apologizing," Chen said. "And he bowed. But he didn't cry like he did on TV."
“我对他的第一印象是真诚和蔼的，他不断地道歉，”陈广强说到，“然后他鞠躬了，不过他没有像电视上那样哭。”
Li told him there were two ways to resolve the situation, Chen said.
李刚告诉他有两条途径解决目前的问题，陈广强说。
They could do it privately through compensation. "He said he would give us his last penny," Chen said. Or Chen could take the legal route through the courts. "He said he'd support me all the same."
他们可以私下里通过赔偿解决。“他说他会倾家荡产赔偿我”，陈广乾说。或者，陈光乾也可以选择通过法律途径开庭审理。“他说他也一样会支持我”（陈说）。
Since then, police from Li's district have come several times to tell Chen to make up his mind quickly, he said. "They told me to give a figure" for compensation.
此后，李刚辖区的警察曾多次催促陈广乾迅速作出决定，他说：“他们让我给一个数字”——赔偿金额。
The police are also urging him to have his daughter's body cremated quickly, he said.
警察还极力敦促他尽快将女儿的遗体火化，陈广乾说。
That's a warning sign for Chen's lawyer, who says the body is evidence. He wants Li's son to face a more serious charge of endangering public security, which could carry the death penalty. The current charge is causing a traffic death.
这引起了陈广乾的律师的警觉，他说遗体是重要的证据。他希望李刚的儿子面临更严峻的指控，以危害公共安全罪而不是现在的交通肇事致死，前者最高量刑为死刑。
Li Gang could not be reached. He gave the Chen family a contact number, but a police officer who answered the number declined to comment and said Li was unavailable.
李刚一直无法联系。他给了陈广乾一个电话号码，但接电话的警官总是说李刚不在，并拒绝任何评论。
A commentary in one of China's more aggressive newspapers, Southern Weekend, said the hit-and-run wouldn't have become a major controversy without citizens watching and reporting online. "It is the age when anyone can make themselves useful," the article read in part. "It gives help to the helpless, power to the powerless."
在中国比较激进的报刊《南方周末》上的一篇评论说：如果没有互联网上人们的关注与讨论，这个事件不会成为焦点事件。“这是一个人人能够发挥作用的时代，”文章中说到，“它给予无助者以帮助，无权者以权利”。
The governor of Hebei province announced that the provincial Communist Party committee has formed a working group to look into the incident, which he said has made Hebei look bad.
河北省长宣布省委已经组成了工作组调查此事，他说这事件对河北省形象造成了很坏的影响。
But the Chinese government also appears to be trying to tamp down interest in the case. State media have been ordered not to publish any more stories on it and to pull their reporters out of the city, a two-hour drive south of Beijing.
不过中国政府看起来仍然在试图打压对此案的关注。国家媒体已经被勒令对此事件噤声，并将记者撤出了该市——一个距北京城南只有两小时车程的城市。
在专贴一些我看到一个人写的东西:
当地公安局的副局长，在Chinese's specialist Class， is one of the lowest power class. The highest is present, then 部，厅，局，处，科。 实际上，李仅仅是付处，一个低于处级的干部。但是他的家族，某gradfather of Q M Li, is a vice present of Hubei province, a middle-high level class in Chinese Rude Bureaucracy Class.
仅仅和谐google是没有用的，TG应该全面武力监管网络，有不和谐直接KIll THE PEOPLE， 不然是无法阻止河水的高涨的，现在的网民就是洪水猛兽，仅仅普通的堵压没有任何效果，高涨的稳定费用也是没有用的，应该把except用来贪污满足官员个人欲望以外的社会资源都用来维持 Barbarous, Bloody Control 。只有这样子，才能表明我党的伟大，正如一贯宣传的，NO Communist Party， No New China， It brings people light, It brings people culture, It makes people rich. It works for people.
While in fact, it means since Communist party controlled the mainland of China, the heavest darkness in Chinese history coming with lots of people are killed for lots of laugher reasons, human beings are poorer and poorer for the reason that the fortune are carried by the TG, human rights are ruined without reasons. All kinds of and more and more people go abroad whenever there is a chance or even there are no chances and agaist the law.
越来越感觉到中国的神奇了，在汽车技术已经不赚钱的时代，中国的车牌能够买到百万，看过一个笑话，广播里播报有辆车逆行，中国Office foreign affair speaker 说：那是上百辆车在逆行，只有我们是正确的道路前进。
出了毒奶粉事件，只有一个替罪羊三鹿，蒙牛照样猛，照样剥削者中国百姓的血汗钱。两袋奶粉都无法通过中国海关，神气。
中国三大石油公司世界回成为世界首富，中石油，中石化，中国地沟油。
央企，一个靠着剥削生存的特色中国企业。
中国的法律，也一次次的展现着他的神奇，每每看到银行某官员贪污上亿，百万，很多成功离开Mainland China，在大陆，也仅仅是表面文章的处罚。而一个因为银行取款机错误的青年人，就无情的被判17年，虽然社会压力下政府让步了，5年，但是对于一个本身不恶劣的年轻人，相对于那些巨贪的硬性，实在是非常好的体现了中国大绿TG法律的公正公平与和谐。某马路扶老太太的南京法官，都充分体现了TG法律的和谐。
在香港，我不认为属于中国大陆，虽然血缘文化上是，那里的居民工作满一定年限，就可以享受到政府提供的住房，中国大陆，房屋空置率居高不下，房价却远远超过了大部分中国居民的承受能力。个个部门个个地方政府，都以房地产作为敛财的工具了。航天5院，一个中国政府宣传最多的科研机构，里面的员工没有住房，但是盖的房子，至今还空置了一片作为国家土地局这样子管理部门官员的住所，虽然没多好。航天一院，最近某所又爆出领导贪污房子的问题，老职工住房被侵占。居民一辈子的收入，不能买到一套住所，而且买到了，仅仅有不到70年的使用权，而且随时可能被强拆。
最近两个流氓QQ和360，竟然以用户为威胁，实在不可想象，除了在天朝上国，那个国家会如此和谐。从珊瑚虫，到后面的一系列实践，无处不体现了QQ在中国的深厚背景。当年，珊瑚虫，北京判决了，没有刑事责任，已经赔偿了， 到了深圳，QQ本部，随便抓人，随便判刑，中国法律真公正伟大和谐。用户的利益就被侵占了，而且当年是腾讯要人家做珊瑚虫，后来因为珊瑚虫没有广告，QQ 就强奸了用户，依靠伟大的中国法律。
中国的铁老大，一个中国式传奇，年年依靠铁路暴力暴利的神奇中国机构。
在专贴一下博文下面的评论:
昨晚，河北大学“飙车案”又有新进展，陈晓凤哥哥发微博，称其代理律师被警告，李刚要求解剖死者以查明死因。《鉴定结论通知书》称：冀FWE420轿车碰撞前的行驶速度为45公里/小时至59公里/小时。
对此结论代理律师称很“扯淡”
王克勤：河大校园“飙车案”又曝新闻：代理律师被警告，李刚要求解剖死者查死因。刚才，陈晓凤家人代理律师张凯致电与我，今晚被律所主任谈话，要求其中止对此案的代理，“主任受到北京司法局的警告，求我时几乎快要哭了。”死者哥哥来电说，保定警方通知，李刚要求解剖尸体查死因，并要求陈家提出赔偿申请。
河大飙车案死者陈晓凤哥哥陈林短信：今早7点保定交警支队刘队长和望都县办案人员来找我们，称：一是肇事方要求解剖尸体，查清死因。要我们立即答复，同意还是不同意，我们没答复，要我们今晚必须答复他们。二是问我们是否同意赔偿解决此案，如果同意尽管提出数额申请，说不要错过机会。
王克勤：11月1日，望都县公安局给受害者家属下达了《鉴定结论通知书》，鉴定结论是：冀FWE420轿车碰撞前的行驶速度为45公里/小时至59 公里/小时。对此，陈晓凤家属的代理人张凯律师表示，这个鉴定很“扯淡”。陈晓凤哥哥陈林也不认同这个速度鉴定，他说：“这个（速度）事实上理论上根本不会把人撞飞。
最喜欢看ccav的笑话
国外有些报纸的报道大都是很公正的，不会有色眼镜，但国内，基本上都是一群乌合之众 。。
这才是新闻自由~
中国的悲哀
等360和QQ一起出了3Q聊天软件就行了
互联网成了当权者的眼中钉啊
what a fucking government
这篇很及时啊 我这几天都没搜到相关的连续报道了 都消失了
美帝一如既往的犀利~
我想知道的是，国内采访不到的国外都能采访到？？
陈胜吴广在哪儿
In a country where fear of the police runs high
这个意外不能改变实质我们对qq的依赖和腾讯的非正义行为，李刚事件也是一样。网络群体性事件是十分有限的，他的部分原因也是因为无奈，它在一定程度上被允许也是因为有人知道它的有限
哪儿说的涛哥要严办
他使我想起了 中国的国歌“起来，不愿意做奴隶的”
大体翻译的很好，但是有很多词不是很准确。class anger可能是群体愤怒，雕塑家(好像原文没有，只是艺术家); accused不是指控，而是被怀疑，被指，被指控是charged;deputy chief是常务副
大量运用意译，很不好，不准确，不是我的风格。
我党现在执行能力越来越差了，这样的贴子都没被和谐。
一窥一斑,一件小事情,可以看到中国的现状,在这种状况下的国家能够实现强大?什么逻辑,国际玩笑也没有这么开的,所以非常支持楼主说的,中国要富强,先把自身建设好
![SiS001! Board - [第一会所 关闭注册]](images/green001/logo.png){kind=logo}
